Email exchange with Alia 2016
Javier <jbscheuber@gmail.com>
Jun 18, 2017, 3:15 PM
to Nielen
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From: Alia Floren
<aliadfloren@live.com>
Date: Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 1:35 PM
Subject: I just wanted to
disolve this simply.
To: Javier
<jbscheuber@gmail.com>
Javier,
I do not want to fight. I do not want to go to court. I only want two things from you: to pay this
credit card, and the 10,000 dollars that you promised for my loans. That was a gift, and if you take that back,
you are worse than I thought.
I will do whatever I can to
get this done and get your stuff to you, but I just want those two things.
I won't even bother with the
Landy. I am of the strong opinion that I
deserve that car. That car belongs to me
way more than to you. It means more to
me than it ever could to you.
But I will let it go.
I just want this card payed
off and to get my gift.
That is all.
It's not that hard. You are just being vengeful.
Alia
[1:07:18 PM] Alia Floren: Fuck you Javier.
I'm a strong woman. Asshole.
You have money. I'm gonna fucking
screw you. I didn't want it to go this
way, but you'll get yours.
[1:12:47 PM ] Alia Floren: The credit card is not all my
responsibility. You are a jerk for
treating me like it is.
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From: Javier
<jbscheuber@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: Bills
To: Alia Floren <aliadfloren@live.com>
Hi Alia,
If you read your last email
message, you may be able to understand why I did not reply: you go as far as
blaming me for your own attempt of suicide... I would really like to tell you
what I think; but I believe very likely it would not have good consequences.
Alia, if you have not done so yet, I think you should talk to a medical
professional: you need professional medical help. Alia, I am very sorry to soy
this, but you are not in good mental health: you just tried to take your own
life. That, alone, is too much of a strong symptom.
I wish I could help you. I
think I could help you; perhaps more than a professional. You can call me
arrogant, but, if I have to say the truth, I trust my own theories more than
other people's. However, I believe, at this stage, you would reject anything
that comes from me. If I tell you what I think, I am afraid you will get mad
and ask me if I have forgotten that I pushed you into suicide last time I told
you what I think.
Alia, you have always been
rather polar, but Dr. Jekyll was in charge 90% of the time. Dr. Jekyll is
adorable, but Mr. Hyde is an asshole. Sometimes Dr. Jekyll will not be
successful getting what Alia Floren wants, so Mr. Hyde is brought forward.
During these last six years, Mr. Hyde has shown up every now and then; but,
then, it got immediately cornered. Unfortunately, in Cape Town Gary
Alia, I agree it would be
good to talk, but not under all circumstances; not from the same old positions.
If we resume talking from the same old positions, it will exacerbate and infect
the wound even further. From all your last writings, except today's, it seemed
to me Mr. Hyde was still in control. In all honesty, Alia, I see your last
email message as grotesque (especially the first half). To take something
innocuous, you judge me and lecture me on what I should have done after you
left. But, if indeed it happened "after you left", you clearly have
no way to know well what happened. Alia, better be quiet and restrain yourself
from lecturing on something you have no clue about. OK? Serve this as a sample
of why I did not believe it was going to help to give your email message a
reply; as much as I wanted. as much as I was dying to do so (as you can tell
from the sample). If I had replied with what I think, I believe it had
exacerbated and infected the wound even further. If I had just hinted what I think
about what you said in your email message, this would be now on fire. I do not
think it will be good to talk from the same old positions. I do not believe it
helps to argue with Mr. Hyde, because it will only fuel it. In fact, I fear
that is what Mr. Hyde is seeking. We only need to think about what happened in
Table View.
I agree it would be good to
talk, if we have something new to say. Your message today sounded a bit
different than all previous, but it is difficult to tell. Maybe Dr. Jekyll is
slowly coming back; but I do not know. To be honest, on my side, I need to say
I do not have much new to say. To say the truth, i rather believe my
perspective is now worse than weeks ago. These last weeks I was feeling more
hurt than angry, but I am slowly going through and digesting the pain. Now I am
starting to feel there is more anger than pain remaining. I feel my Mr. Hyde is
gaining power.
I do not know if you have
anything new to say or not. You are certainly totally entitled to keep your old
position; these last several weeks. But, if your position remains basically the
same, unfortunately, I do not believe it would be a good idea to talk. That is
why I was stressing whether 'you want to talk' against 'you think we should
talk'. If you just think we should talk, it does not make me feel optimistic.
Alia, we had it all and you
blew it off. Mr. Hyde blew it all off and burnt all bridges; to the point it
did not stop until everything was completely disintegrated. I guess Mr. Hyde is
insatiable and will always be thirsty for more power and will do whatever to
achieve it. However, Mr. Hyde missed there is the one thing that will never
disintegrate: the memories of our six years together through 64 countries.
Clearly, you determined the bad memories overpowered the good memories. Time
will say if you were right or wrong. Personally, it has always been very clear
to me, bad memories fade away with time, while good memories become ubiquitous.
One year ago, we were walking
one night in Madrid Congo Africa ?
Alia, didn't you feel privileged, didn't it feel good, to wake up just before
sunrise in Etosha, just to "go-see-rhinos" ..."wake-up-baby,
go-see-rhinos". Have you forgotten you told me in that infamous warehouse
in Killarney Gardens Africa with the new freezer, rack and rooftop tent? Alia, we
had it all and you blew it all off.
Please, let me know when 'you
want to talk'.
Javier
No. That's not what it was. I
was the last one to write an email to you, and you never wrote back. What it
was is that I didn't want to push and push you to talk if you did not want to.
That's why I said when you are ready.
I got the impression you were
either to busy or did not want to talk yet. I am concerned about talking. We
need to talk.
Alia, you tell me when 'you
want to talk'. I was busy all last week taking care of my own problems, but you
did not seem really concerned about talking anyway. You sounded more like you
would accept talking, if I should ask for it.
We should talk sometime.
Hello. I just want to say whenever you want to talk.
Let me know.
On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM , Alia Floren <aliadfloren@live.com> wrote:
I would hope you would help
me pay the credit cards. Not all charges are mine. I have used a big chunk of
the 2000 that was moved for nothing other than that. It just happens that the
bills were bigger. I also had to fly back, a charge I would hope you will help
with.
You took me to a place lower
than I have ever experienced that day on the beach. Have you forgotten, or did
you never believe I tried to hang myself in the first place? Actually, I tried to hang myself, then
suffocate myself with a large plastic bag and belt, then went to the idea of
cutting my wrists. If I had other methods available there I would have been
successful.
You made things complicated
for yourself after I left by refusing to suck it up and pay money to handle the
problem. You insisted on using people's generosity in a time when you should
have just taken the responsibility and gotten it done.
It is so much more than 'Me
not wanting to drag you around supermarkets.'
This was building up for a long time. We have had both very good and
very bad times together. I was beginning to see that the bad times would keep
coming. We would keep having our fights. I take my responsibility for the huge
part I played in starting and exacerbating those fights. I was an asshole to
you in the best of times.
The only time I have seen you
show remorse for your part in our fights was the day after I tried to kill
myself. You cried and had a moment where you acknowledged you were in the
wrong. You brought up Monaco
If you think I was cold in
those last days, you clearly went back to thinking you played no part in the
bad moments of our history. Do you
really think I would come and beg for your forgiveness, be kind, and tell you I
loved you at that point? I didnt even want to see you. I was broken. You tore
me apart on that beach, and I am still trying to pick up the pieces.
This was coming Javier. A
relationship doesn't fall apart out of nowhere. It was crumbling. In Iona
I wanted to leave you, but there seemed no way out for me. I was trying to save
it Javi. For New Years I made myself promise I would be nicer. I was consciously
trying to save us, because I knew I was falling out of love with you.
For a couple months before we
made it to South
Africa Cape Town
I still tried though. I
wanted us to last, but there were too many dark stories underneath the facade
of togetherness and love. We were
scarred from our fights and there was no going back or forgetting.
I know I left you in an
incredibly shitty situation with the car there in Cape Town
What I have done is to
destitute myself and decide to start from scratch. I have a lot to think about
and do to try and get on my feet. You
may be having a bad time, but so am I. I have no money and all I ask for is a
little help with the credit cards.
I want to say that many
people have told me I should sew for alimony. I don't want that. I do not want
to fight with you Javier. I know I called the shots when I chose to leave, but
I want us to try and finish this peacefully.
I ask little of you. I know you can help me with a few bills. It is
frustrating that you would hold me in such a tight place.
I am not just a person
"around" you. I am a person you spent years with and who went many
places with you. I know you need to help yourself; I am doing the same thing.
I hope we can talk at some
point over skype.
Alia
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From: Javier
<jbscheuber@gmail.com>
Date:03/20/2016 8:45 AM
(GMT-07:00)
To: Alia Floren
<aliadfloren@live.com>
Subject: Re: Bills
Hi Alia,
I am sorry for the delay in
my reply. You caught me in the worst time possible; very stressed trying to get
everything ready and feeling very bad.
The evening before you
disappeared to go to Gary
For me it is very sad that
you only think of me when the time to pay bills comes. You were extremely cold
in your last days in Cape
Town Gary
Alia, I am destroyed. My
whole life is a mess and I seem totally unable to understand why have I
received this punishment. I am feeling very bad. I do not have energies to
start thinking whether I should transfer you money or not. Before I start
thinking about helping people around me, I really need to try help myself. I
need to try to get myself back together. In the next months, I will have to
take surgery and I will need a lot of money for that. You said we do not work
well together anyway.
Javier
P.S.
If I might say, try to pay by the
due date at least the 'minimum amount due', or they will otherwise screw you.
If you have not done so yet, you
may want to tell the SPOT GPS Tracker people you do not want to renew the
service for one more year.
Can you please send the Yoigo SIM
card back to Spain
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 9:47 PM ,
Alia Floren <aliadfloren@live.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm sorry to be writing you
like this.
I am writing to ask for some
help with the credit card bill. It is
going to be almost $1000.00 due on the 20th and 22nd.
If you can help. Thank you.
Alia
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